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Post by Brady Finta on Nov 25, 2007 15:05:41 GMT -5
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Post by Dave Cruser, former model on Nov 26, 2007 3:45:48 GMT -5
Oh, wow, seriously? This is our Final Three? Where is... oh man, he's serious! Quick, someone hand me a mirror!
*looks at himself... calms down*
That's much better. Now it's time for my former model claws to come out. So, let's see here.
Cao Boi - Please describe to me a strategic move you either planned or executed.
Big Tom - Please tell each of the jurors why they were eliminated and the biggest character flaw they exhibited in the game.
Tom - Hypothetical question. If you were placed on a different tribe at the beginning of the game, do you think you would still have made it to the Final Three?
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Post by Big Tom on Nov 26, 2007 12:16:17 GMT -5
Oh, wow, seriously? This is our Final Three? Where is... oh man, he's serious! Quick, someone hand me a mirror! *looks at himself... calms down* That's much better. Now it's time for my former model claws to come out. So, let's see here. Big Tom - Please tell each of the jurors why they were eliminated and the biggest character flaw they exhibited in the game. Ha, Dave, I loved your character throughout this entire game. It made the game so much fun to play and you were an absolute hoot to have around. On to your questions...I had to go back to my ole notes here and see why I voted the way I did in each Tribal... JUROR 1 - Dani: For Dani, it became very clear to me that she was playing both sides of the fence, I was told by multiple people (people she thought were with her) that I was not part of her plan, but she kept acting like she was. She was very smart though she would never firmly commit to a plan, she would say things like "that sounds great" or "great idea", which in the world of ORGs means, "I am not with you, but I'll make you think I am". I have been around the block and I knew my time with Dani was done. It was short-lived anyway. We took the opportunity to get rid of a real threat early on. Her character flaw was commitment I would say. Had she told me the truth I actually might have talked her out of her alliance and talked her into working with my alliance longer. JUROR 2 - Candice: I didn't vote for Candice, I voted for Elizabeth. Though I knew she was going. It was told to us by numerous "Ladies" that she was in a new alliance with the ladies. (The Original Alliance was Tom W., Cao, Candice, Becky and I). Her character flaw might have been her social game. She didn't seem to be on a lot which causes too much speculation. JUROR 3 - Elizabeth: This was just a matter of getting rid of the other alliance for me. Elizabeth and I hadn't talked, and we knew she was a member of the other alliance so I pushed for her to go. I was also skeptical of Becky at this point, and I was hoping that by eliminating the other alliance, that Becky would come back to us, but she refused to vote for Elizabeth here, sealing her fate later...Elizabeth's flaw: I can't really give her a flaw because we didn't know each other, but maybe not talking to me would be a flaw, ha. JUROR 4 - Becky: Becky jumped ship, plain and simple. We had been told many times that Becky was working with a new alliance on the girls side, and I held people off for a long time on voting her out because I thought she would come around, but the fact is she was never committed to the alliance. She was always wishy washy when she talked to me, I always had to reach out to her, and she would take forever to respond, and then respond with something vague OR to tell us she would not vote with us. After it happened twice, it became clear that I could not rely on Becky in the end. I knew the end was going to be tricky because of what had to happen, and I knew Becky was not someone I could reveal all to. Her flaw was not committing to a powerful alliance that always had her back. JUROR 5 - Jen: Nobody had anything to do with this, though she would have gone in this slot anyway. Flaw: Not active. JUROR 6 - Ken: This is during the time I was deathly sick. I really wanted Jamie to go here, because I knew she was campaigning, and had her own little final 4 plans that did not include me. I had campaigned for her during the Becky vote too. I logged on right before the vote and saw that my alliance was all voting Ken, so a vote for Jamie would be lost and I needed my alliance to trust me. Ken and I were close, but not super close, but this is the vote I felt the worst about. I let my sickness cloud my judgment and I just voted. Flaw: The only thing I'll say is he gave up on that Combination puzzle pretty quickly, and I really had to motivate him to finish. Never give up! JUROR 7 - Jamie: It was about this time that I was 100% positive that there was a Final 4 deal with Tom W., Jamie, Dolly and Dave. They were convinced they had the numbers. I was also told I was going home. This alliance didn't realize that Tom W. and I were tight from day 1 and that their little plan wasn't going to work. Tom W. and I had begun talking about the Hidden Immunity Idol and the fact that he had it. We knew that we needed to pass it back and forth between myself, CB and himself to reach the final 3. Well we had heard that Cao Boi was the vote...Dolly told me, and Tom had heard that too, so we gave the idol to CB, and CB and I voted Jamie, knowing that she would go home. Then we heard that Dave and Jamie had changed the vote up to vote ME out, so CB transferred the Idol to me. Dolly had already voted CB, and then the best part happened, Jamie self-voted. So it was 3-Jamie - 2 Big Tom, 1- CB. It was beautiful. Jamie was out and we still had the idol. I only targeted Jamie because I knew she and Dave were running the show over there, and I had a hunch it was Jamie's idea to take me out. Flaw: Not showing up for the most crucial vote of the game. JUROR 8- Dave: When I found out who Dave was and that Dave knew who I was, I immediately knew that the plan to get me out was his. I could be wrong. Dave is an amazing player, and I knew that he had great plans. I wanted to target Dave instead of Dolly because Dolly told me to vote CB, and she stuck to her vote. What Dave/Dolly didn't realize is that we had a.)Tom W. with us and b.) we still had the HII. So no matter who they voted for one of them was going home. CB and I voted Dave, and Dave/Dolly/Tom W. voted CB. CB pulled out the idol as planned and Dave went home. Its important to note here that Tom W. voted Cao Boi, just so he could see the Hidden Immunity Idol used...he worked hard for it so he wanted to see it come into play. The shock that went through Dave was worth it. Flaw; Not much, he played a great game...not a good liar though. JUROR 9- Dolly: this was a no-brainer. My loyalty was to CB and Tom. You did approach me for a CB/Dolly/Big Tom Final 3, but then never responded to me again. I am glad you got to the Final 4. I tried to make that deal with you the moment you got back in the game. I thought you were with me, but it became quite clear that you weren't later on. All in all you got to where I originally wanted you in the game. I wasn't going to vote to keep you over CB or Tom W. so there is nothing really you could have done here except win immunity. Flaw: not much here either. You did what you could and you made the most of your second chance! That's all! Sorry it was so winded, but I wanted to explain myself. As you can see only one juror did I not vote for...Candice.
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Post by Dave Cruser, former model on Nov 26, 2007 17:36:39 GMT -5
Good answers Big Tom, thanks.
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Post by ☺Cao Boi Bui☺ on Nov 26, 2007 18:26:36 GMT -5
Cao Boi - Please describe to me a strategic move you either planned or executed. Hi Dave! Some of your hair is sticking up there. Sorry... You probably won't like this answer, but as I'm sure you have figured out, I was NEVER a strategical mastermind! No sense in making up a story now is there? That just makes me look like one big idiot.... and a liar at that. Sorry again if you aren't impressed by this.
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Post by Tom Westman on Nov 26, 2007 19:49:53 GMT -5
Tom - Hypothetical question. If you were placed on a different tribe at the beginning of the game, do you think you would still have made it to the Final Three? Thanks for asking this Dave! Without a doubt there would be no way in hell that I would be sitting here today. Sure I could lie and try to tell everyone that I was the greatest player in the world and whatever tribe I ended up on I would be here. That simply isn't true. I was very fortunate to end up on the same tribe as you Dave and without the Durga alliance I would not be sitting in the final 3. Going in at merge I had the HII in my pocket and I came into this game to play the game as real as I could. I knew that I could flip things with the HII and I used it later in the game to get me to where I am today. I knew though at the same time it was vital for me to try to win every immunity challenge that I could to make it appear that I was fighting for my life. Which was not the case at all because of the Durga alliance. I loved out Durga alliance though. Let me talk about each of them real quick. Dave- I had so many fun conversations with you about strategy and who doesn't love the best looking guy (who isn't the host) in this game? You and I talked a lot about strategy and really shaped how the end of the game was going to happen. You were an awesome alliance partner and I trusted very much. I would tell you everything (except about the HII which I kept for my own strategic purposes). The reason I didn't tell you about the HII is because I knew that I needed to have a balance in this game between the two powers. By telling Big Tom about the HII I was able to cement my place inside of the game and unfortunately I had to back stab you. Jamie- Love ya Girl! It was a lot of fun just to kick back with you and shoot the breeze. You were also very smart about this game which was nice to have in the alliance. I know that your playing dumb was an act and you did very good at it. You were very close to being in the finals yourself. The problem though was even if you hadn't self voted I had already started planning on how I was going to make the end game. Had you not self voted the week you left then the HII would have come into play against you. It was nothing personal at all but purely a strategical move to try to get myself further. Dolly- Now I'm not going to try be mean Dolly at all, but I came into this last TC coming in to be honest and straight forward. I have no clue why you think you were a master mind of the game. You did not win a single immunity, you were already voted out of the game and your survival in the game was all based on Dave and My Strategy. We looked at you and saw you as an easy person to bring into the Durga Alliance. We knew we could control your vote by giving you a group of safety. Dave and I saw you as a person that we could take to the end and win against because you had been voted out. We would have both been sitting here saying the same thing- That it was our strategy to bring you along to the end. This was smart in my gameplay as well because I knew if something failed with me and Big Tom then I knew I could still have a final 4 going with Jamie Dolly Dave and Myself. So what I'm trying to say is that I always had a backup plan to all of my plans that I could go to. Don't get me wrong though Dolly you were a great person to be with! I loved talking with you and I knew that you were going to be 100 percent loyal to the group mainly because you had no where to go. You played the game as PERFECTLY for anyone that had already been voted out of the game and brought back in. That is something that I know I could never do in my life and I have to give you congrats on that! Ken- I really felt like we had some sort of connection. It was a shame that you were on the outer ring of the main 4 in the Durga Alliance but you were part of the Durga Alliance none the less. It was awesome to talk to you about Australia and New Zealand! You played a very good and honest game but fell pray to the numbers game. You were very quiet game wise but your brain was always ticking. You were strong both physically and mentally and the numbers just got to you at that point. Candice- It truly was a Shame that you had to go so early in the game. You and I had things going strategy wise. I don't think anyone really knew that we were working together early in the game but the problem that happened between us was the Tribal Switch. When the Merge came it looks like you were "Caught Between two Decisions". You could either come try to be part of the Durga alliance (Where you would have placed much higher than you did) or stick with the "Mean Girls" alliance. All you had to do was separate yourself form the Mean Girls and you very well could have been sitting here today instead of me. The only problem you had was the constant ridiculous lies that Danni made to everyone. There is a good way to make Ridiculous lies (ask Dr. Will ) and then there is a stupid way. I'm sorry that you got involved with Danni completely. But Dave If I had not had each and everyone of these people and became friends with them all I would not be here today. Each of these people were very important and I'm glad I got to meet them all. They are great people and they are all very unique. Without a doubt, If I hadn't been on a tribe with them since Day 1 I wouldn't be in the final 3
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Post by Dave Cruser, former model on Nov 27, 2007 4:43:48 GMT -5
Thank you all for your good answers. I'll be thinking about my vote. Tom W., don't think you've got my vote in the bag, it's still up in the air at this point.
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Post by Tom Westman on Nov 27, 2007 16:12:57 GMT -5
I don't think I have anyones vote in the bag at all Dave.
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Post by Big Tom on Nov 27, 2007 16:41:53 GMT -5
I know I don't.
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Post by Dave Cruser, former model on Nov 27, 2007 17:54:04 GMT -5
Well, good luck Toms and Cao Boi.
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Post by ☺Cao Boi Bui☺ on Nov 27, 2007 19:32:11 GMT -5
Thank you Dave.
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Post by Tom Westman on Nov 27, 2007 19:46:48 GMT -5
Thanks Dave
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Post by Danni [is prettier than Becky] on Nov 27, 2007 19:57:35 GMT -5
Tom Westman...why are you not answering my question?
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Post by Tom Westman on Nov 27, 2007 20:02:19 GMT -5
It is nothing against you at all. I'm logged on all the time because I'm doing a research paper for College and I only have a few minutes here and there to come in and try to do questions. I promise that yours will be done soon Danni! Right now though I really do want the 4.0 so I can go to Harvard for Law. I think you can understand that.
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Post by Elisabeth Filarski ♥ on Nov 27, 2007 23:00:24 GMT -5
Good Luck, Tom W.
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