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Post by Big Tom on Nov 29, 2007 17:14:23 GMT -5
I didn't quit Danni, you just won't listen to anything I say and you keep badgering me, so all I am saying is that I don't want to fight with you anymore that's all.
I will continue to answer any questions you want, but I was also told by the host that questions were over.
I apologize if you thought I was quitting. And how was I supposed to know that I had your vote you've been campaigning against me since tribal started.
I am pretty sick of these mind games.
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Post by Tom Westman on Nov 29, 2007 22:05:15 GMT -5
Hello Boys, It's Danni [is prettier than Becky]
I have to admit, I am aghast at some of this rude, obnoxious behavior in this game. I feel victimized. Lying? I never heard of the word...ever. So, if either of the Toms tell me they played an honest game, I am sorry, but I have to say...
BULLnuts!
Tom Friggen' Westman - IF I do not remember correctly, you had an alliance with Becky. What the hell happened there? Also, you and I had an alliance, along with Tom Buchamoron, Becky and Candice. That alliance didn't last at all, buddy ol' pal. You were responsible for my elimination, then you went after Candice, Elisabeth and Becky. You were close to Becky, but you voted her out when you had a final 2 deal, correct? I normally don't drag other games into new games like you told me before, but I can officially call you a liar, a backstabber, and a traitor. Don't you dare say "I deserve to win because I won a lot of immunity challenges". Any idiot can use that excuse for votes. I can also promise that you better have a hell of a lot of tricks up your sleeve if you expect to get my vote.
Tom Westman - List all the times you lied or used somebody in this game. I want you to know that I know most of them, and I will correct you.
Also, please include who you think is hotter Beck Beck or Dan Dan. Love Ya's <3
Love, DANNI FREAKING BOATWRIGHT [is hotter than Becky]. Well because your and Jen's questions are almost identical I will repost how I played every second of this game for you Danni First of all I want to point out something. Here let me get a definition of an alliance. ALLIANCE:an agreement between two or more parties, made in order to advance common goals and to secure common interests. I don't know if I'm blind but does it say anywhere in that definition that an alliance is a 100 percent bond? No- alliances are made to be broken. In the business world today companies break alliances all the time to get farther into the game. So to say that backstabbing is out of the survivor game is not fair to say. Also if you notice when you look at the rules of Survivor it never says that people in an alliance together must work together until the end. I broke alliances knowing that by breaking them I would get farther in the game. I always took every move looking at least 2 weeks farther in the game. Also to tell me that winning challenges is not an important part of the game is ridiculous. First of all you have to win challenges to keep your self from being voted out in the game pre merge. Second you need to win challenges to differentiate yourself from others. The three points of survivor are to OUTWIT OUTPLAY OUTLAST I did all of these things in the game I played. I came into this game wanting to play the game as realistically as possible. I was on time for all of the individual immunity challenges at the end of the game and I kept myself as a leader while being in the Pre merge. OUTWIT I was able to constantly be smart in this game. I made strategic moves which I will talk about in this game that got me farther. I also made sure that I was friends with everyone in the game. I also had the HII and was able to use that as a Strategy to get to the final 3. I also did not receive a single vote throughout the whole game. Clearly my strategy worked and worked very well for me to get to where I am today. OUTPLAY I think this is very specific to the challenges I won all but 2 individual immunity challenges and I consistently was a leader in the premerge challenges. So to not base your vote at all on challenges is not smart it is just out of complete hatred to me. OUTPLAY Ultimately the combination of my game and strategy have brought me to where I am today. I am in the Final 3 without a single vote and I Outplayed 15 other survivors. But let me tell you it was not easy at all. You all put up a great fight and it was a lot of fun to play with all of you. Now onto each week in the game PREGAME Before the game started I did a little chit chat with who I could. I came into this game with the intention to play it as an actual survivor game so I approached all of my conversations that way throughout the game. Tom and I had some Chit chat and we agreed to look out for each other in the game. I didn't make much of the comment at the time knowing that there was a great possibility that we would get split up and that he could possibly get voted off. DURGA WEEK 1 I believe that you either make or break your chances of winning a reality tv show in the very first week. This definently was the case with Durga. I was very lucky to end up on the best tribe in the game. It was filled with loyal people and great friends. Without Durga there is no way that I would be sitting where I am today. From the start I began to contact Dave. I knew that Dave was getting a target on his back form his cocky attitude (which I thought was funny) so I started striking up an alliance with him. I could quickly tell that he was very smart and that this alliance was going to be great. I knew that if for some reason that the other 4 had already made an alliance together and that if we had to go to TC and a 4-2 vote happened that I would be safe that week because of the target that Dave had made very early in the game. I used Dave's Target has a shield for the first week. Following this Dave and I talked how it was essential that if we were going to survive that we needed to pull in 2 more people to make a super majority in the tribe. I suggested Jamie because she was my Showmance early in the pregame and we were also allowed to pull Dolly in as well. I felt safe but I then proceeded to make friends with all of my other tribe mates. I was glad to meet ken, he seemed quiet but strong. Then Candice came to me wanting to make an alliance. I agreed to this. I knew that if our tribe sucked at the Immunity Challenges that and we had to go to two back to back TC's that I would be able to jump ship and pull (most likely) Dave a long with me to create a 3-1 vote. This was to guarantee that I had the numbers at every TC before the merge if it came down to it. This first week I was quickly able to tell that Jamie was not as dumb as she was playing and that Candice was a very smart player. I knew that Candice and I were going to get a long great and couldn't wait for the possibility to jump ship with her when we got to merge and shake the game up a little bit. The first immunity challenge was called off because of Chirs's cheating. I don;'t think it would have really mattered because I think that Durga would have dominated in the challenge anyway. We communicated amazingly and everyone was active and doing great. WEEK 2 DURGA Week 2 was more of the same. I was able to strengthen my relationship with Candice more and ensure that the "4 Some" was going strong. The immunity challenge was the one where we had to catch balls. Durga did amazing and it showed that we were a tribe to be beaten with the number of catches we did. This week I believed that I had the numbers in the game so I started to come out of my shell and tried my best to begin the tribe to victories. I belived I began to show this In Durga with this challenge. I knew that Dave was already looked at as a leader so I wanted to try my best to be as much of leader as Dave as possible. I truly believed that we were the Koror tribe in this game. After winning the IC we got our clue for the HII. I found the HII after one clue. I knew that I could use the HII as a instrument for strategy especially with the plans of wanting to jump ship and keep Candice tight at the merge. DURGA WEEK 3 Again I just continued to be friendly to everyone. All of the relationships that I made in this game were real. I loved getting to know people and I loved just talking to people. Just because I strategically voted some individuals out does not mean that I did not become friends with them and have a great time with them. It is essential to separate the game from fun. Again I came into this game to play the GAME. I didn't come into this game for a social life. If I wanted to do that I think I would have tried something like "Online Bachelor' or some online dating site. I did make friendships a long the way and I tried to do it with everyone but I always put the game before friendships. I hope you will also do that with your vote today (that is to all of the Jurors). This week we had the memoirs of all of the seasons. If this challenge had truly taken place Durga would have won that as well. At this point in the game I started to put out the idea of an all Durga alliance at the merge. I didn't know of any tribal shuffles coming up but I did know that we were doing amazing as a tribe. By beginning to put this idea into the tribe mates minds I ensured the creation of an All Durga alliance. Again I was always looking into the future and not at the present. I didn't mind that the HII clue came back to us. I had the HII and that is all that mattered to me. At this time I kept myself away from any talk of the HII. By keeping myself away from the HII talk I was able to keep anyone (as far as I could tell) from thinking that I had the HII. SHIVA WEEK 4 WOW! I was so happy and so glad to get picked by Big Tom as the first person in our tribe. I was stoked and I knew that I could trust him for the rest of the game with no doubt at all. I definently wanted to possibly work something with Candice and him in the Future. I chose Danni because she was very active in the game and was clearly a lot of fun. I wanted to ensure that we had an active tribe going into all of the challenges. When Danni picked Candice I was even more happy. This seemed like the best Tribal Pick 'em EVER! When Candice and I were on Shiva together I knew that my feelings towards Candice weren't false. I believed we got really tight in the following two weeks and I was truly looking forward to working that with her. Candice picking Becky was a good, she was very active and I knew that she would definently help out in all of the challenges. When Becky picked Ibe though I was a little sad. I knew that Ibe had been pretty inactive lately and I didn't want an inactive tribe. Then having Dolly put on my tribe was the cherry on top of the ice cream (until she magically turned inactive) I had planned on having Big Tom and the three original Durga tribes mates voting together at any TC. This would ensure the inevitable Durga alliance at the merge and it would keep me in power. I still had the HII in my back pocket but I did not tell this to anyone. I wanted only to reveal that I had it when I 100 percent knew when I was going to flop. The challenge that week was the posting challenge. I stayed up long hours and missed sleep and did everything I could to make sure that we as a tribe would not be going to TC. I had not gone yet and did not want to go. I showed my true heart and character that week by being the highest poster out of all of the survivors. I did not mind at all accepting the target that would be placed on my back. At this time I liked it knowing that I had the HII. This again to me was another moment where I tried showing the leadership role in the tribe based off my performance. SHIVA WEEK 5 I didn't like this week at all. This week really pist me off. Dolly had become incredibly inactive and I was hoping that she would come back to so I wouldn't have to be forced to vote off one of my own tribemates. I continued talking to everyone on the tribe. I made friendships with all and made sure to be nice to everyone. I truly loved everyone on that Shiva tribe and I'm glad that I talked to all of you. This all lead to my strategy of being friends with everyone in the game and not getting a vote. The challenge also upset me. Ibe came in just the perfect amount of time and we tied with the other tribe forcing us to go to a Tribal Counil. I was mad that I had to go especially because of all the work I did prior to the challenge. Seeing the treemail as morse code I got a website that translated morse code. Eventually thought it seemed my strategy worked. I did not receive a single vote and was forced to vote out Dolly because of her inactiveness. I voted Dolly that week. INDRA WEEK 6 I was very happy to get back on the same tribe with Dave. I also sent PM's to all of the new tribemates that I had. It was very nice to get to know all of these new people and I continued my strategy of becoming friends with everyone. I was glad to get the update from Dave that he agreed that Durga had to make an all Durga alliance at any merge. It was nice to see that the only Durga voted out by that point was Dolly. I didn't care about the Reward at all until I found out that there were 2 hidden prizes. One of the prizes (an HII Fiji style) and a bring back into the game were pretty neat. I guess one was REALLY neat to you Jenn because it brought you back into the game. I didn't know who had these prizes until it was either to late or it was used. With Ibe being incredibly inactive I knew that we were going to have to go to TC again. I started the talk before the IC about an Ibe vote and everyone seemed to be in favor of it. I thought we could win this Challenge but the Girls tribe was much more active. I got my question in first (because I knew the importance of challenges and wanted to start getting ready for the Individual immunities). But unfortunately not enough of the tribe could get theres in before there competitors. Going to TC was easy because everyone knew that Ibe should go. I voted Ibe that week. INDRA WEEK 8 This week was a lot better than the week before. We had become an active tribe by voting out Ibe and we were rolling. I began to talk to everyone and really pushed the friendships with everyone as much as I could. This is especially true with Ken. I loved getting to talk to Ken about Australia and New Zealand. That was a lot of fun. I think this was the week that Ken and I grew the strongest. I knew then to as well that if I could I want want Kent to be there with me when I wanted to jump to the other side with Candice. This entire time though I did not know that Candice was becoming part of what was being known as the "Mean Girls". I found out at the merge but it was to late to do anything. Her name had become attached to Danni and Becky and they seemed like a tight threesome. Winning the reward challenge was great. I'm not big on Flash Games but I did my best until I believe I got the highest score on the hardest difficulty (I found out that the harder difficulty gave you more points). I didn't really care again about winning clues at all but it was nice to win. It was then posted in our camp that week that the HII had been found. Again I kept my self as distant as I could from the HII to not make myself look like I was trying to cover up that I may have had the HII. The immunity was interesting. This is when the outcasts came back. I had a feeling that there would be some outcasts twist but I didn't really care. I actually was not supposed to be in the challenge but I was forced to because Dave couldn't do it. I loved getting the opportunity to do the puzzles. I was very glad that we were able to work strong together as a team. I believe that Big Tom had a lot to do with that win with how he helped guide and direct us to that win. This reinforced my love for Big Tom and I knew he was still 100 percent loyal. It was a shame that Jenn was inactive at the time because I know that the outcast would not have come back had she done the challenge. It is very likely that Jenn's computer crashed and that happens to all of us so I don't hold anything against her (you). I knew that Jenn would be voted out but I didn't know who would be voted back in. Dave and I talked and were optimistic that it would Be Dolly .She was clearly revived and was much more active than she had ever been in the past. Dave and I both knew though that we could use this moment as a time when we could capture her and use her as a pawn vote. We knew that she didn't have a place to go and that she wanted to be safe. We also knew that if we went into the a Final 3 voting scenario that no one would vote for her because she had already been voted out. We agreed to both point that out in the final TC had we been there with her.
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Post by Tom Westman on Nov 29, 2007 22:05:34 GMT -5
BRAHMA WEEK 9
Wow I was glad to make it to the merge. My first order of business was to make sure that I was being friendly to everyone in the game. At this point being reunited with my Showmance Jamie told me about the Mean Girls Alliance. I was scared that Candice's name had already been associated with an alliance. I sent out a PM to EVERY Durga member saying we should keep strong and keep being all Durga. Candice told me that she was for it but others said that they were scared that she was with Danni and Becky and not with us. I seriously went to everyone in the game and was trying to find ways to keep Candice safe but at the same time keeping Durga safe. I wanted to keep Candice safe to jump ship later in the merge with Big Tom. It now seemed as well that Danni was making promises to everyone and not being so secret about it. This was good because Dave got word of this and quickly targeted her as the first boot. I had no objections to it thinking that Danni truly wasn't going to help me in the game at all. Because of the twist we went straight into the Tribal Council. I voted for Danni that week. I also took up a new strategy that I took until about the final 5 or 6 in the game. I kept my friendship status with all of the people that were about get voted off and I would say something a long the lines of , "Hey things aren't looking to good for you, I'm hearing that you are going to go next." So quite surprisingly I am the most honest backstabber ever to play this game. I told everyone that they were going to go home and it was true. So to say I kept it a secret when I back stabbed people isn't true (except for in the case of Dave). I voted for Danni this week. I still haven't received a single vote.
BRAHMA WEEK 10
Winning the first immunity was an awesome feeling. I think it is a true testament of the way my strategy was working. By being friends with everyone in the game it payed off and showed that all of my sociable efforts were working. It sucked though that right after we had won immunity we had to go right back to tribal council. I didn't have a lot of time to sway any votes. The majority of Durga saw Candice as a threat. I knew she was smart but I didn't want to see her go. But I only had one vote. In the end I needed to do what was best for me. Candice did not convince people enough that she was a person that had not flopped. Because of this I was forced to vote Candice to keep the false trust with my alliance. Be it known that I did send messages to say "Lets Vote off Candice, she is a threat etc etc etc" Yes I did send those. But it was not because I wanted her gone I really didn't. I had to send those to ensure the longevity of myself in the game. I sent messages out to people that were very strong in saying we needed to vote out Candice so in further weeks there would be no doubt inside of all of the Durga members minds that "I was with them.". What made me so incredibly made about this TC was the fact that Candice had an HII. I had no clue. I thought she and I were really tight. Had I known this the TC WOULD have been different. If I had this info I would have taken that week to jump and saved my HII for another possible jumping of ship or to save myself. I was really disappointed that I did not know that she had the Second HII. That really made me feel like crap knowing that things could have been different. In then end to ensure my longevity in this game and not knowing about the HII I voted for Candice. I also told Candice that people were after her to keep my friendship between all the players that were getting voted out. Again I was an Honest Backstabber.
BRAHMA WEEK 11
This week sure came by quickly. We had a challenge based off of what everyone thought. I am not good at those challenges but I did the best that I could in it. I think I got by at least the first round. In the end I was ultimately disappointed with myself for not thinking harder on the challenge. I felt perfectly fine knowing that I had the HII in my back pocket. It would have been one of the worst moves in Survivor History if all of the Durga alliance had turned on me so I knew I wasn't going to go home at all at this TC. I kept my communication strong with everyone in the game and I made sure I was talking to everyone. The line had clearly been set though in this game based off the last TC and It clearly helped me so I didn't feel like changing things up. It was everyone vs the mean girls. I knew that the next two TC's would be Elizabeth and Becky. I continued being friends with them though. Dave and my Dolly plan had worked out great. Dolly was with us and she was voting with us. We sure had her under our belt. At TC I informed Elizabeth that she was going to go home. She asked me how the vote was going down so I told her. I voted for Elizabeth that week but again kept being the most Honset Backstabber.
BRAHMA WEEK 12
Ohh I was happy to finally be back on track. I won another Individual immunity challenge because I played it as if I were in the actual game. The directions were a little confusing but I was glad to See Big Tom win as well. Knowing that I wanted to jump over with him I was incredibly happy to know that nothing could be changed up and that he was going to stay. Around this time talk began to come up that I was a challenge threat. I was very happy to be known as this because it only added fuel to my fire to want to win all of the challenges even more. There was talk from people in my own alliance as well that they might have to vote me out so I wouldn't go on an immunity run. This TC was easy for me as well. I kept my friendship with Becky and told her I would tell her how the vote would go down. I voted Becky but told her that she was going to go home. Again I kept up with being the Honest Backstabber.
BRAHMA WEEK 13
Again I think that Week 13 is another Testament to how my social game was by far the most thought out and stratigized. The immunity was a twist where we would pick a survivor form the jury to essential vote for someone to give immunity. I got a good number of people to vote for Becky telling them that she would be the least bitter out of all the Jury members. I knew that my friendship was strong with her so by pushing for her I was hoping I would get the immunity. I felt like I stood very good chances to win that immunity and I did. In this case it wasn't' my brawn that won the challenge but it was my brain and social game. It shows that winning challenges isn't all about brawn but you can do just as well with your mind. Everything worked out to plan and I won another immunity. We then had to go right back to another TC. (Wow Brady you kept us there a lot). We also found out that Jenn was dropped out of the game due to inactiveness. I know you and I knew that you wouldn't simply drop out of a game. I knew it must have been some problem with your computer and so it was. So I had to think quick. I got a message from Ken saying that he wanted to make a sneaky final 4 with me big tom and Dolly. I took this to Dave knowing it would make him mad and want to vote off Ken. I didn't want to make my move yet because I knew at the final 6 that I could force a tie and then use the HII to push me to have the numbers to go to the end. I liked Ken a lot but I used his own words to get him out. I also told Ken that it looked like trouble for him again holding up the title of being the most Honest Backstaber.
BRAHMA WEEK 14
This was the week that I needed to flop. I felt like I really wanted to win immunity just to make sure that nothing wrong could go with my plan on flopping. I worked my butt off and again gave every effort to win the Immunity. I did and I was happy. At this time I knew it was the perfect time to reveal that I had the HII to Big Tom. At first I pushed for a Cao Boi vote to all of Durga. This is where things got interesting. This is where Dolly stood up and she too tried to make a stand. She then had the power to influence the whole Durga alliance to vote for Big Tom. So I had to quickly get Cao Boi to transfer the HII to Big Tom to keep everything safe. Dolly was a smart person and it was smart of me to start jumping. She had control over where to vote was going and also could sway people. She also was going around telling people that after this latest immunity challenge that I was a huge immunity threat. I knew that I had to go and that I wasn't going to stick around to find out if I was going to get backstabbed. By giving the info to Tom I was essentially cementing our already good alliance in the game. It made sure that there would be no turning between us because ultimately it was best for both of us tto stay honest. I voted for Cao Boi this week as well to keep the false imprsesion that I was still with Durga. It would make it seem like the whole time I was with them and voting for Cao Boi was loyal. Then I get vote is for Big Tom. We transfered the HII to Big Tom but everything was ok because Jamie self voted. So even if Jamie had voted she still would have left because of the HII.
BRAHMA WEEK 15
This week was in the bag from the begining. I was still "Loyal" in the eyes of Durga and so i could feed to Big Tom and Cao Boi where the idol should go. I provided some Screen names for Big Tom in the challenge and I made a technicality. He won that fair and square and he deserves it for finding the technicality. This week we targted Dave as the target. He clearly was the strongest member left of the Durga alliance. I also told Big tom about how no one would vote for Dolly if she had gotten to the end because she had already been voted out. I kept th false allusion of loyalty with Durga by voting with them again knowing that the immunity idol would be played. Again see I do have brains and I knew what was going on. I was able to think everywhere in this game and know how to make myself still look good to people despite me working against them. I clearly had both Brains and Brawn. Dave was voted out because of the HII and going into the final 4 I felt good.
BRAHMA WEEK 16
I seemed to be the only one that did the final immunity challenge and I frankly got lucky. I know there would have been much more of a fight from everyone else if it hadn't been for personal issues in life and for Thanksgiving. I still wanted to challenge though so i pushed for a No Redo. That gave me the win and insured that I could not be backstabbed by everyone in the game. I know they wouldn't have backstabbed me because they are great friends and allies but I still wanted to win so I could know that I won all but two individual immunity challenges. It is interesting again that Dolly came to me and said, "Tom we should vote Big Tom" Knowing what was going to happen with the vote and her still thinking I was with her I couldn't believe how badly she was lying to me. She clearly did believe that I was with her but before I won immunity she approached CB and BT to vote me out because I won a lot of challenges. So saying that challenges isn't everythign isn't true Jenn. It affects how others play the game and target people as well. Knowing where to vote was going I voted Dolly with BT and CB to be where I am today.
I hope the wait was worth it because my fingers are tired now. Good question and I Hope truly showed you how I played this game and how it shows why I think I should win
Thanks
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Post by Tom Westman on Nov 29, 2007 22:06:25 GMT -5
And I think your hotter than Beck Beck Dan Dan
And lets not forget as well too Danni you said in the Tribal Council that you were voted off that you would miss me. So were you lying too or did you seriously miss me?
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Post by Becky Lee on Nov 29, 2007 22:38:52 GMT -5
And I think your hotter than Beck Beck Dan DanAnd lets not forget as well too Danni you said in the Tribal Council that you were voted off that you would miss me. So were you lying too or did you seriously miss me?
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Post by Tom Westman on Nov 29, 2007 23:12:09 GMT -5
And I think your hotter than Beck Beck Dan DanAnd lets not forget as well too Danni you said in the Tribal Council that you were voted off that you would miss me. So were you lying too or did you seriously miss me? But Did I say Danni was more Genuine and Sincere?
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Post by Becky Lee on Nov 29, 2007 23:16:54 GMT -5
Awwww! I love you Tom!
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Post by Tom Westman on Nov 29, 2007 23:27:49 GMT -5
I love you too Becky
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Post by Danni [is prettier than Becky] on Nov 30, 2007 14:53:05 GMT -5
I was lying.
Well, good luck, jury. Tom Westman, I want you to know that I do not dislike you anymore, because you gave me a great answer.
Its a very tough choice now.
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Post by Tom Westman on Nov 30, 2007 16:33:08 GMT -5
Thank you Danni, and thank you for reading my answer
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Post by Big Tom on Nov 30, 2007 18:25:51 GMT -5
But you still dislike me?
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Post by Danni [is prettier than Becky] on Dec 3, 2007 15:23:40 GMT -5
I detest you in this game. I like you everywhere else, though. Kind of like Me and Elisabeth really disliking Becky for a bit. Love ya' too, Mei!
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Post by Big Tom on Dec 3, 2007 19:06:43 GMT -5
Well the feeling mutual Danni.
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Post by Danni [is prettier than Becky] on Dec 4, 2007 15:56:29 GMT -5
You have no reason to dislike me. I did not do anything to you. You did stuff to me to deserve the hatred, Big Tom.
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Post by Dalton Ross on Dec 5, 2007 11:22:51 GMT -5
Well, you were kind of mean to him in the questioning.
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